Topic: JG G36c Piston Options (Read 1944 times)

Sniper1943 · « **on:** July 20, 2011, 03:30:14 PM »

Ive been looking around on the internet, and have seen many people recommend pistons, but alot of people didnt really say tht they tried the piston setup in a JG G36 variant. Basically, my piston did strip and im looking for recommendations on what piston, or piston+head combination would work well in a Jg G36 variant (G36c specifically). Im also gonna be buying a tightbore, and a systema bucking, but as far as gearbox (ver 3) any suggestions would be appreciated.

Note: Its a 2011 version, with a metal, non-bearing spring-guide, nylon bushings, plastic piston, plastic piston head, gears/gearbox dont have any wear, and i got spare #14 o-rings too

kalashnikov1 · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2011, 03:46:26 PM »

Try an SHS piston.

bludragon071889 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2011, 04:25:51 PM »

The insides of airsoft guns are 98% identical so it does not matter what gun you have as long as the individual parts work well together. But yeah, I have had good results with SHS pistons. Even stock pistons on standard builds.

Sniper1943 · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2011, 04:38:59 PM »

I saw some shs parts on airsoftatlanta, specifically, the cylinder head, and 7mm bushings, but the only shs piston they have is one with steel teeth, and ive heard people say tht those types of pistons are a recipe for gear replacement, im not sure though im more of a spring/bolt action techy

kalashnikov1 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 20, 2011, 04:48:02 PM »

No your gears will be fine. Make sure to adjust to adjust AoE, and your G36c setup might benefit from some swiss cheesing.

Sniper1943 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 20, 2011, 04:56:48 PM »

Any piston heads tht are worth looking into as well? And would the shs cylinder head benefit me?

So i think ive got a good list here,

SHS 14 Metal Tooth, Light Weight: http://www.precisionairsoft.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=SHS001&CartID=3

SHS 7mm Bearing Bushings

SHS M110 Irregular Pitch Spring

Stock Piston head, w/#14 o-ring

kalashnikov1 · « **Reply #6 on:** July 20, 2011, 07:38:53 PM »

Stock piston head is fine, especially if it is the cream colored JG one. You don't need a new cylinder head, just put sorbo on the stock one and seal it with RTV silicone sealant.

VertBert · « **Reply #7 on:** July 21, 2011, 12:14:55 AM »

Quote from: kalashnikov1 on July 20, 2011, 07:38:53 PM

Stock piston head is fine, especially if it is the cream colored JG one. You don't need a new cylinder head, just put sorbo on the stock one and seal it with RTV silicone sealant.

I believe that many of the people on Airsoft Mechanics swear by the JG cream colored piston set. it's durable, and cheap, and seals pretty well. I have this same gun, and I've run it primarily stock for a few thousand rounds so far. Just do the basic shim and adjust AOE. No need to worry about your gears- stock JG gears are surprisingly strong for ACM parts.

kalashnikov1 · « **Reply #8 on:** July 21, 2011, 01:17:21 AM »

Well said. I have the cream JG piston head in several of my guns, just a good all around well sealing piston head.

maj.scooter · « **Reply #9 on:** July 21, 2011, 12:18:44 PM »

From what I've been told by players I know they swear by the Angel Polycarbonate Pistons.I like the jbu pistons my self.They have worked well in my p90 pulling a 120 high speed setup for years now and so far iv only had one major break with them.This is what I'm using atm.http://www.airsoftatlanta.com/JBU_Aluminum_Piston_w_Steel_Teeth_p/50654.htm

bludragon071889 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 21, 2011, 02:30:42 PM »

Yeah, don't use the JBU piston, for the love of god, that thing is so heavy. If it were not for the fact that the p90 is very reinforced in the front, you would have cracked it a long time ago.

The angel piston is nice, abet a little bit soft. I have on in on of my G36's and it has lasted quite a few rounds but you can see where the sector gear compressed the first tooth.

For the price, get SHS, after a couple thousand rounds, I could see no wear on the piston at all. Plus, it just feels like nice material. Swiss cheesing the piston, the shards are very hard and fibery. Kinda like the fiber that CA and SRC G36 bodies are made of.

Sniper1943 · « **Reply #11 on:** July 21, 2011, 02:38:00 PM »

So let me just confirm cause im gonna make an order soon, a 15 steel tooth SHS piston would be a good choice? Im gonna order from ehobby cause thy got bushings, and some other things i need

kalashnikov1 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 21, 2011, 04:45:55 PM »

Yes, that piston is excellent.

maj.scooter · « **Reply #13 on:** July 21, 2011, 05:52:06 PM »

The shs pistons look like they will get the job done so yes.

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bludragon071889
:Yeah, don't use the JBU piston, for the love of god, that thing is so heavy. If it were not for the fact that the p90 is very reinforced in the front, you would have cracked it a long time ago.

I have seen that happen so it was a concern.But the gun broke the polycarbonate piston I had in it and bent the tooth rack around the sector gear so I didn't want a repeat incident.Any way I would not use that particular piston for a stock set up I was just sighting an example.

ctres94 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 21, 2011, 09:39:08 PM »

If you haven't ordered yet, here is a good piston that is not full steel teeth.
http://cgi.ebay.com/Combat-Squad-Reinforced-Single-Steel-Teeth-AEG-piston-/250855886410?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a682d0e4a
SHS actually cloned this, but I believe this is the same as the original azimuth. Someone on airsoft mechanics pointed out that this one has the reinforcemend on both sides of the piston teeth unlike the shs. The full steel tooth shs is also really good, but it could be overkill in your setup. First off, it is heavier, which could possibly lead to gearbox cracking, though that is highly unlikely with sorbo and a v3 box. The second and main problem is that you would be better off stripping a piston than gears, since gears are usually more expensive, but with the steel tooth piston, if something went wrong, you would probably strip the gears with that shs steel tooth piston.

kalashnikov1 · « **Reply #15 on:** July 21, 2011, 11:48:40 PM »

A heavy piston alone will not lead to a cracked gearbox, and the SHS one isn't even that heavy to start with compared to other pistons, like that JBU someone recommended... Yes, it is better to strip just a piston, but in this setup isn't extreme at all, so if you just adjust the AoE right, you shouldn't have to worried about a stripped anything.

Sniper1943 · « **Reply #16 on:** July 22, 2011, 11:54:45 PM »

Would a sorbo pad be needed, because, im gonna run stock setup, m110 spring, tight bore, and thats pretty much it, oh and a #14 o ring, and yes i did order the shs piston, thanks for everyones help

kalashnikov1 · « **Reply #17 on:** July 23, 2011, 12:55:26 AM »

Use sorbo to correct AoE and for shock absorption.

ctres94 · « **Reply #18 on:** July 23, 2011, 09:11:50 PM »

Quote from: kalashnikov1 on July 21, 2011, 11:48:40 PM

A heavy piston alone will not lead to a cracked gearbox, and the SHS one isn't even that heavy to start with compared to other pistons, like that JBU someone recommended... Yes, it is better to strip just a piston, but in this setup isn't extreme at all, so if you just adjust the AoE right, you shouldn't have to worried about a stripped anything.

Really heavy pistons can crack v2 boxes alone, however, that is almost always without sorbo. Heavier pistons also put more stress on the pickup tooth of the piston because a heavier piston is simply more mass to get moving. Although most of this is alieviated with correct AoE, I simply felt that I would throw in a reccomendation. I believe it is a general concensus among good techs that if a heavy/heavier piston is not necessary, then it is best to go as light as possible. Since this is a low stress setup, either piston would probably work just as well, I just question your reccomendation of a heavier piston when it is completely unnecessary.

Sniper1943 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 24, 2011, 05:53:33 PM »

one last question where should i order the sorbo pads or materials from, and what dimensions?, gonna run a m110 spring with that shs piston

Edit: Or should i use plastic washers?

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