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Author Topic: Arma 255 Replica Red Dot, Arma 3X Magnifier w/ Side Swivel Mount combo opinions.  (Read 1221 times)

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I've been planning on ordering this Holo-Sight Magnifier hybrid off of www.weaponblender.com for some time now.  I haven't been able to find any written reviews of either sight, which I always check over before I chance ordering anything.  Adding to that I haven't had any experience with accessories from the manufacturer, so I have no view as to the quality of the sights.

Looking for opinions on ordering these sights, or for anyone who's owned a product of the like before to give me a heads up if they'd recommend it or not.
You can find both of them here:

http://www.weaponblender.com/index.php?productID=1013
http://www.weaponblender.com/index.php?productID=2016

Thanks ahead of time.

« Last Edit: May 08, 2012, 12:22:10 PM by CallsignStalker »
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the red dot is fine. it works just like a regular red dot.


if you use the magnifier, you lose peripheral vision. there is a large dark vignette.

Also, you won't need that magnification for airsoft. You most likely won't be able to hit as far as the zoom.

It might give you situational awareness, but you can easy do that with a small monocular telescope
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Do you happen to own the red dot as well?  I expected it to work well enough but I want to know about quality, basically if it's metal construction or not (assuming yes).

I'm more concerned about the magnifier because I've never owned anything similiar.  Could you possibly give me a number from one to ten on how much of your vision it actually blocks out versus just looking through the dot sight by itself?  I understand it will be off to the side more than not because for Airsoft it is unnecessary, but I'd rather have optics that can be used for surveillance mounted on my rifle over carrying them elsewhere.  Plus I do sharpshoot so even if I can see a target well enough to hit them without magnification I still prefer it.
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Looking through a magnifier+dot sight is just like looking through a scope.  Be careful when buying replica eotechs; there are models out there that have a dim rectical.  I'm still not sure which brands have this problem though.  Do you want that magnifier specifically?  I can point you to a replica aimpoint magnifier and a replica larue right side rotating mount combo that I use if you want.
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This dot sight works well, I've just recently found reviews on it so it won't be a problem.  And I actually know the aimpoint magnifier you're talking about, but it's not exactly what I'm looking for.  It should work almost exactly the same as this magnifier though so I'll just ask you this.  How do you like it?
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i don't like the magnifier. lol
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Is it just me, or this setup really looks like the one from CoD:MW3 ?
As for the question: You probably won't use the magnifier in games except to scout ahead.

It CAN be useful (I also use one on my M4), but it will kill almost any chance to use an iron sight. This is a DMR setup (where DMR means accuracy upgraded AEG with 350-400 fps power), and none of these are BB proof. All it takes is one lucky shot to kill your EOTech replica and/or your magnifier.

Edit: edited for spellcheck (replica is written with a c in English)
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You can easily make lense protectors. -_-

As for the magnifier, I like it.  It's only got two inchs of eye relief which stinks, but that isn't really a problem; you just have to get used to it.  You can center your rectical with some adjustment screws on it.  Also, it's actually a 3x magnifier rather than a 4x. (I think, but I'm not sure)
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Is it just me, or this setup really looks like the one from CoD:MW3 ?
Give enough time and every setup will look like it came out of CoD
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Give enough time and every setup will look like it came out of CoD
I would love to see an authentic Zastava Arms M76 S.A.S.S. in CoD.

But back to the point. Op: If you think You will need it then go ahead and get it. EOTech replicas are good and all, but please keep in mind, that some may act like a mirror, and you may see reflections on the reticle. It will not cause you trouble aiming for most of the time tough. But be sure to get protectors for all the lenses, as they are too expensive to be discard-able.
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(Apologies for not replying sooner)
i don't like the magnifier. lol

So you do own it then.  Do you simply just dislike the poor eye relief or is there another reason?

This is a DMR setup (where DMR means accuracy upgraded AEG with 350-400 fps power)

What model M4 do you use the sight with?  I've been in a small debate with a teamate on what classifies a rifle as a DMR over a BR, with me giving your definition of a DMR.  The rifle the sight will be mounted on fits the definition.

As for the lense protectors I've never truly considered mounting one for other sights before now because I prefer to stick with the "don't get shot at" plan, but I might order one for this sight in the future depending if it comes up or not.  And at this point I am ordering the sight.  I just want to dig up any more problems I can find with it to be aware of.

;) Oh yea and I told myself I can't play CoD any more because every time I do it just makes me want to Airsoft, which is hard to do at 2am.
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What model M4 do you use the sight with?  I've been in a small debate with a teamate on what classifies a rifle as a DMR over a BR, with me giving your definition of a DMR.  The rifle the sight will be mounted on fits the definition.

At the moment I use a CA sportline M4 with a carbine stock, MOE grip and MOE hand-guard, installed with JG S-System fold-down sights. But I do plan to change the outer barrel to a 10.5" CQB-R length one. Also I only ALMOST use this setup, as I am using a Hurricane 552 style EOTech replica (full marked).
I also have the luxury of owning a custom built Yugoslavian Zastava M76 S.A.S.S.(400 fps, hard semi only) so I can also use this setup on that (if we are not playing on an official game).

In my definition a DMR is a rifle that is ALMOST similar to the one your average grunt is holding next to you on the outside. The main reason behind this is painstakingly obvious in the battlefields of the 21st century (and in airsoft too): if you stand out from your unit you get shot. Also a DM is not some kind of an uber-shot super ninja (like a Sniper), but more like a normal Marine (meaning he knows how to hit targets at long ranges, and  he is a better shot than the average grunts). So the rifle he will use must be roughly the same as the one his teammates carry, but he will definitely use a setup that lets him fire to longer distances easily.

Edit:
Forgot to answer the second part of the second question: A BR is a Battle-Rifle. A battle rifle is a selective fire platform, that fires a full size ammunition instead of a carbine sized one. So an M14 variant that was not rebuilt as a DMR platform would count as a BR. The Yugoslavian M77 definitely counts as a BR, as it is basically an AK chambered for the 8mm Mauser or 7.62 NATO round. We have to keep in mind, that a Battle rifle was not intended to give accurate fire to long distances, as it's actual goal is to give a greater stopping power at the distances your grunts are shooting at. Sometimes it is used to shoot through walls and covers or to take out targets in advanced body armor. A H&K G3 should also be classified as a BR.

To sum it up: Both differ from the normal Grunt weapon, but in different ways and emphasis. The BR steps up in cartridge power, while the DMR steps up in accuracy (but not necessarily in cartridge power!). For this reason a BR is just like a normal AEG in airsoft, while a DMR will have the best accuracy upgrades available while staying barely full-auto (and thus field) legal.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
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