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« on: December 22, 2006, 06:19:37 pm »

This is going to have alot added to it so tell me what ya think

Real Steal History:
The Heckler und Koch G36 assault rifle had been born as HK-50 project in early 1990s. The reason behind that project was that the Bundeswehr (the German army), after the cancellation of the G11 and G41 projects, was left with outdated G3 rifle and no modern rifle, compatible with the current NATO standards at hands. So, the famous company Heckler & Koch was set to develop a new assault rifle for the both German army and the export. The new rifle should have been a flexible, affordable and extremely reliable design. The G36c is an extremely compact assault rifle that is perfect for CQB or even woodland.

Ordering:
I ordered my gun Saturday morning around 1 or 2 AM lol I was estimating how bad my dad would be pissed off but all he cared is if it was under the tree so mom can watch me get exited. The order process was a little frustrating, it kept saying I lived in Alabama and when i changed it to Kansas it went back to Alabama, it finally stopped doing this after a few tries. Also to the people located in California there is a special tax i believe around 10 dollars. The gun showed up at my front door on Friday the 22nd so big thanks to Airsoft Gi there a great retailer to do business with. Note:All of the new JG G36c's i have seen on the net are the new V2's said to have better ROF and harder shots there have been reports of the V2s only getting 9rps on the stock battery. And alot of people have been confused about Echo1. They are just like UTG, they take a gun in this case JingGong G36c and take it out of the box, test fire it, put it in there Echo1 box, and ship them to retailers. They then provide customer service and a warrenty.

First Impressions:
Once I got home I ripped the paper open and was greeted by a bluish Echo1 box that said in big letters X36C. When I opened the box I saw a stack of papers from asgi about shipping, defects, returns, blah blah blah. It came with the manuel which is pretty much just like Tokyo Mauri's being the fact that it talks about the TM tracer unit. An 8.4v battery more on that later a Trickle wall charger, cleaning rod, magazine, and the gun with an orange plastic barrel cap. I pulled the gun out and removed the fore grip and popped the battery in POP POP the gun came to life. Its got a low pitched pop for the firing sound. I clicked it down to full auto and noticed how smooth the fire selector was, it glided across then locked firmly on a desired selection. I probably should have put the battery on the charger but I could'nt resist I loaded the hi-cap fully and stepped outside, then quickly took aim at my favorite target and let off a quick burst. The rounds took flight and went straight into orbit. After ajusting the hop-up which is stiff at first i was consistantly hitting a 3 foot tall tree stump at 150 feet not bad for a gun that is only 28 and a quarter inches long 19 with the stock folded. Satisfied, I then threw the battery on the charger and studied the gun a little more.





Manual
The manuel actually suprised me. It didnt have many spelling mistakes and was in very easy to read english. It had a lot of diagrams over the breakdown of the gun, cleaning the barrel, even trouble shooting. A good manual is a plus in my book. I dont even use it but it will help Teh noobs figure out tehr problems instead of crouding the forums up.






Magazine:
Not much to say here, it does its job well and feeds flawlessly. It can drain the mag on a single set of winds. Its black and doesn’t wobble at all when in the magwell. Ill be headed to JT this weekend to pick up a hi-cap mag, from what ive heard they feed well. I just tested the my buddys BE hi-cap and it didnt fit, i think the feed nozzle doesnt line up, oh well. I just tried a TM hi-cap in this gun and it feeds perfectly. After buying a BE hi-cap at JT i busted out the old dremel, i shaved off the circular walls around the feed nozzle and to no luck it seems pretty hard to get it to fit. I did have 1 to 2 bb's feed but that was friction fitted and it just didnt cut it. I will be buying a PPA m4 magwell this weekend and test it out with Airsoft Elite, and MAG midcaps. The gun swaped magwells perfectly, the finish isnt exactly the same being the magwell is a tad grayer. Mag midcaps feed perfectly but the Airsoft elite mags required some electrical tape to fit snugly enough to feed well. But they feed perfect now to. Alot of people say M4 mags ruin the look of the gun but when I have 10 M4 mags sitting on my desk being used for 1 gun I sure as heck will try to use them more. I think M4 mags compliment the styling of the g36.





Externals:
This gun is extremely solid and has no flex at all the plastic is slightly textured very similar to a TM only from what I noticed the TMs body was slicker. The gun isnt creekey at all in any places but I will admit out of any G36 i have held the Classic Army model is the absolute strongest. The following are all metal: Front sling post, Fore grip rail, Flash Hider, Hop up Cover, Trigger, Selector Switch, Front and Back Sights, Stock Locks, All pins, Gearbox(for you detailed people) I know im missing some stuff so ill update this. The gun is flat black but when held up to the light it has an amberish glow its very strange and I like it. The only different colors on the gun are of course the selector markings and the hop -up/bolt cover it is a deep gray. The only problem i can see is the stock is a little stiff when trying to get unlocked when folded, this will most likely go away with time. I sprayed a little silicon lube on the pin and back folding assembly and now the stuck is a lot smoother when changing configurations. With a little bit of use the stock is now perfect. It locks hard on to the side of the gun but when pressed up and out it swings perfectly into locking position. The selector switch is made out of metal with a slight ruberish texture which makes it extremely easy to change selections. Like many HK guns there is a selector on each side. Which is a big plus for me being the fact that Im a southpaw. The switch clicks positively into each selection. I cant say the same for BEs g36 series, both my friends g36 and sl8 need to be held in full auto because they vibrate out of position easily.





Internals:
I haven’t cracked open the Gearbox mainly cause I just got it and I wont jack with it till it breaks or I want to upgrade it. Ive heard reports of no shims in the gun, with this type of power output that is scary and could result in a very unreliable gun. I however will reserve my opinion until i see a problem and so far the gun has been shooting flawless. The hop up is very responsive and is ajusted via the g36 dial personally im not a fan of the dial ajustment but it does its job so I cant complain. It is a direct copy of the TM. In the 1st Protocol review it was claimed the spring felt a little week which might be bacause of some insane compression i dont know but i can verify this upon opening the gb. They also tested the shimming of the gun and it was reported to have no gear grind and little play. Judging by the sound of the gun, there isn’t any gear grind or weird sounds so I think this thing will last, time will tell. I havent had any semi auto lock ups where you have to switch into auto to be able to fire. That happened quite a bit with my R6 but that gun is a whole different story. The battery that comes with the gun is very nice and fits solidly into the fore grip. I must say it is the best battery i have gotten that came with an mpeg. There have been reports of it not fitting in the M4/M733 series but it fits like a charm with the G36c. The battery is an 8.4 1100 mah NI-MH so no memory problems. The gun is 100% Tm compatible, it is taken down just like the TM and accepts every TM compatible kit. When taken down to the gear box I noticed a slight amount of grease on the gb shell. But overall the Gearbox looked extremely nice. No bad casting, no metal shavings, the cylinder was solid which was a problem for my BE aug. And the wiring is fairly nice 16awg wiring.



Performance:
This thing shoots quite far I am consistently hitting a tree trunk from 150 feet. I did a poor mans chrono test with a Diet Coke(with Lime) and it went straight through both sides. I also shot the bottom and it pierced it (didn’t go in). But that is quite impressive. Ill get it chronoed at BB Air soft some time this weakend. I will have accuracy tests up very soon once the wind finally dies down.
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Durability:
Can’t say yet but trust me this gun is going to have the crap beat out of it and well see how long it lasts. Judging by how smooth the GB is running I think it will last, but time will tell. I have shot about 1500 rounds through this gun, with not 1 misfeed, jam, or lock up. Its done its job so far not only internally but externally as well. Ive played all day with it, going threw weeds, branches, and debris and not one scratch on it. It has also survived 2 falls one from 3 feet directly on tile(hey what are little kids for). And another off my dresser so around 5 feet onto a wood floor. And still pumpin out bb's like a little champ. So far it has lasted over 4000 rounds without a single jam. Thats not half bad

Skirmish Report:
I went to a skirmish a few weeks ago at a farm. We had 3 abandoned barns to choose from so naturally we chose the biggest. Me and 2 others defended the barn while the other 6 were on assault. Near the beginning my buddy got 2 kills right off the bat. When the other 4 took a flanking stradegy. I held them off for a few minutes making them duck there heads 120 feet away. There bb's made it to me but by the time they did I already saw them coming and dodged them. I got the 3 out who decided to make a run for it and quickly eliminated the last man. It was the same story the whole day, I didnt count how many kills I racked up but I definately had the most. I love this gun, I never was outgunned, never ran out of ammo in the middle of the firefight, never regretted pressing verify order when I made the decison to buy this gun.

Future Mods:
Any gun I get I must change so im thinking a larger fore grip and maybe a Private Parts Magwell for some of my Mag mid-caps they both feed great in the gun.

those are the best slippers ever




Pros & Cons
Pros:
Affordable (135 shipped off Asgi)
Sturdy
Nice Battery (8.4 1100mah NI-MH
Hits the 330+ mark fps wise
It looks so dang sexy
Cons:
Stock is a little stiff
Some small seem lines
Heavy(some find that a pro)

Variants:
G36 variants are:
G36E- Export model with no RDS on top of the standard scope/carry handle.
G36- Normal version. Has the dual sight system with both an RDS and a magnifying scope.
G36K- Kurz, or shortened G36.
G36KE- Shortened G36E.
G36KV- Rare variant with a different scope rail, Norwegien(I think).
Mg36- LMG equipped with a drum magazine.
G36c-compact or commando
SL8-civilian sniper rifle


Conclusion:
Ive held many different guns and even owned a few high end guns(ICS Ak74 and a TM Beta Spetz), from what I have seen so far this is the best gun I have ever owned. It is truly worth every penny. If you’re a G36 fan you have got to order one of these, you’ll feel the same way I feel.



If you want anymore pics just ask what youwant a picture of(besides my sister or mom).





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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2006, 06:31:54 pm »

Pretty nice, how do you think the little plastic parts around the battery compartment are? mine on my echo are a little flimsy. Is you're battery a little bent too? And When you do open it tell us how each part is.

You mad a V2 is coming out?
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« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2006, 06:36:29 pm »

Pretty good review, once you get an official chrono it'll be great.  I'd reccomend getting a couple of cheap targets (or just printing out some) and doing an accuracy test at 25 feet, 50 feet, 100 feet and 150 feet.  That would really give people a good indication on the accuracy.

Like you said, you don't want to jack with the gearbox, so don't worry about examining the internals, but it would be nice to have in a review.  Try putting in a little more about your experience ordering from ASGI, that would help inform others on which sites are best to order from.

And just a minor correction, there are 4 G36 variants; the G36E (the standard rifle) the MG36 (support weapon, basically a G36E with a C-mag and a bipod) the G36K (k stands for kurz, German for short I think) and the G36C.

Good review, nice info, good luck on the editing.
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2006, 01:07:36 am »

are mags TM compatible? nice review.
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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2006, 01:41:38 am »

For editing purposes, put the pictures where they belong, not just at the end, it would look nicer. Also, can you specify which high end guns youve previously owned? That would help tell how good this gun really is. Thanks, nice review.
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2006, 03:04:17 am »

Is it hard to put your battery in the gun
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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2006, 06:18:49 pm »

I slapped together some quick punisher trades

tell me what you guys think, the flash really brings out the color difference in real life it blends alot better
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« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2006, 04:27:38 pm »

Wow, both sides of a can and it looks good! I love the G36 and I think I'm goin to get this! This is just me, but If you could post some accuracy tests (i.e. a sheet of paper with a target and bb holes Tongue) that would be awesome. This review is also a bit short. I'm sure you can go more indepth on this gun! I made review a spring pistol (Tanfoglio Witness, and yes, I do like it) and I got more stuff on it(or maybe it's just the pics). How is the body? I've seen cheap G36's that develop cracks just from normal everyday use. Good review though, just needs a bit of revision.
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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2006, 05:21:02 pm »

lol i like that. I'd put a Nod symbol on mine though.

And what is the biggest battery you could put in that thing
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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2006, 06:12:01 pm »

ive got an 8.4 3000mah LARGE battery that im thinking about hooking up to this thing. Instead of an external battery bag I can throw it on the front rail. I need buy a large to small connector though. Only problem is it makes the gun really front heavy. The battery possibilitys are endless for this thing because of the fact that you can swap fore grips easily.
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« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2006, 06:25:34 pm »

Might want to run over your grammar again, such as "there" when you should have used "they're".

I'm pretty sure it's G36, not G-36 too. ...I'm just being nitpicky, but still.

G36 variants are:
G36E- Export model with no RDS on top of the standard scope/carry handle.
G36- Normal version. Has the dual sight system with both an RDS and a magnifying scope.
G36K- Kurz, or shortened G36.
G36KE- Shortened G36E.
G36KV- Rare variant with a different scope rail, Norwegien(I think).
Mg36- LMG equipped with a drum magazine.
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« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2006, 11:42:13 pm »

thanks for the correction EyGeePee i added your varients
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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2006, 11:01:14 am »

The review is a bit short still. try to add as much detail to your paragraphs as you can. If you don't the review will be  a page long once I do the coding.

And for some of you, if your post dissapeared, it's because you violated the rules for this section.
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2007, 09:22:29 pm »

Can we get a pic of the g36c next to a tm g36 (if possible--other gun if not).
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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2007, 10:21:47 pm »

Can we get a pic of the g36c next to a tm g36 (if possible--other gun if not).
ill try once i get into BB airsoft
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« Reply #15 on: January 03, 2007, 08:25:32 pm »

How's the accuracy?
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2007, 04:16:11 pm »

I'm not the reviewer, but I've got one of these as well, and I can answer the accuracy question until the reviewer gets around to it.

At about 65', with a modest, but variable, cross-breeze, I just managed to put 5 consecutive bbs into a target with a 5.5" horizontal spread and 3" vertical spread.  I figure the horizontal spread was mostly due to the wind.  I'd have had 6 shots to group with, but the wind flipped the target up just before I fired the 6th shot, and my fingers were getting cold so I went inside.


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« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2007, 12:13:38 pm »

Great review. Makes me want one (hmm, JG36 or CM031.....). Can it fit those G&P or Classic Army scoped carry handles like on the G36K, E, etc.?
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« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2007, 12:03:42 pm »

Have you attempted to put any variant fron ends on the gun? From CA or anything like that?
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« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2007, 07:18:19 pm »

AEGDude- yep, it will fit all g36 carry handles
Grifon-No. but i will probably get a Classic Army Large battery G36c foregrip for it in the neer future
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« Reply #20 on: January 24, 2007, 10:09:58 pm »

Well you need to add a lot to the performance section.

just wondering, if you have it in your hands, shake it, pull on some parts, push down on the plastic. Is it creaky, weak, feel more like a toy than a real gun. Because man the difference between a CA and this is amazing. I know it's plastic but just saying

Same quality materials and plastic as TM, or no
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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2007, 04:56:49 pm »

I thought it's a pretty good review... Please update on the 100' accuracy results soon! Anyone knows if I can fit a 9.6V 1400mAh ni-mh mini battery in the stock foregrip? With a slight mod, maybe? I'm not really keen on getting a large foregrip...
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« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2007, 10:38:44 pm »

yes, performance does need work and the overall beefy-ness of the review is a bit weak. perhaps targets with almost optimal conditions (i.e. inside) would be good. Man i want one now!! perhaps a durability update too.
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« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2007, 06:47:29 pm »

Do you think the Echo would be better?  I'm trying to decide if I should spend over 40$ more and get the Echo 1 version or stick to the JG version.  Does anyone have a cheap Echo 1 site for the G36C?

Didn't you get the "Echo 1 G36C"  from airsoftgi.com?  They don't have JG guns. 
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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2007, 10:38:13 am »

the echo 1 g36c from airsoft gi is simply a JG rebrand with warrenty slapped on and some QC
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