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« on: January 09, 2007, 06:37:09 pm » |
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Well, heres the scoop. I want to convert either a CA SPR or a TM PSG1 to a low power sniper rifle, around 450fps. They way I would like to go about doing this would be to do the following with each gun:
PSG1 SPR Torque Up Gears No Gear Replacement M120 spring M120 spring Prometheus Tightbore Prometheus Long M16 Tightbore Metal Bushings
(Airsoft Atlanta Stated that with and M16 length tightbore or longer, and a m120 then 440-450fps should be easily obtainable)
Pro's: Pro's: Longer Barrel Steel Gears Comes with Scope High torque Motor Just Freakin Sweet RIS Pre-compressed piston=no Lack of pre-compressed piston which means less likely to wear spring trigger lag Can work on it myself
Cons: Cons: Need new gears Shorter barrel Not full metal mini battery only plastic body possible new motor
Ok my concerns for the PSG1 are that the precompressed piston, while being a good thing, could potentially be a bad thing as well because that could wear out the spring if it were to remain compressed for an extended period of time also I would assume this would have more strain on the entire mechbox. I also wasnt sure about upgrading it to a m120 spring, i didnt know if the PSG1's motor would be able to turn it over as fast as the classic army one. Also i didnt know if I would have to go ahead and get torque up gears for it as well. And on a side note battery compacity was an issue, could a mini batter turn over an m120 for extendend amounts of time because the m16 has a fullstock to house a large battery.
Price isnt really an issue because it would end up the same after both guns were finished just because on the SPR i would want a bipod and a mock silencer and a nice scope where as the PSG1 i would be fine with what it has. So just give me your opinon I want to know if the PSG1 is really a good base to start out on and if you know about anything as far as my concerns go then i would also appreciate any input in that area as well. Please if your SOLEY basing your opinon on looks, then keep your thoughts inside your head im really looking for performance information rather than cosmetic opinon.
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2007, 06:52:39 pm » |
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There is a de-cocking button for the PSG-1. I think it you should get the SPR. The scope that the PSG1 isn't that good, just a tasco 4x32. you could get a way better scope for $50 Oh and the SPR comes stock at 440fps. I think you should get the SPR, make a review and be happy lol
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« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2007, 08:36:38 pm » |
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I have the new CA SR-25 and it is amazing. I wish I had more time to write a review, but I said before in some thread that it has more range and is about as accurate as my USR-11(weights removed, teflon mod, tightbore, etc). It shoots stock "115-125m/s" according to the paper that came with it. Its pretty nice.
But if you're set on these two guns, I would suggest the SPR if you plan on using accessories and sharing magazines and such, or the PSG-1 if you're not concerned with accessories or sharing mags. I've heard the PSG-1 is really nice stock. All I can say about Classic Army is that you might want to buy a Guarder hop-up bucking while you're at it.
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« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2007, 06:52:03 pm » |
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well i haven't used either of them but in my opinion i would go with the PSG-1 but really i have no info or anything but i like the PSG-1 better
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« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2007, 07:19:36 pm » |
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Just look at that BIG list of CONs for the PSG-1.
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« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2007, 11:27:53 pm » |
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Plastic body and Not full metal are pretty much the same thing. There is no need to repeat it and Lack of pre-compressed piston should be a con for the spr. What is the point of having ris on a sniper rifle... to attach a flashlight lol. I actually like that it has a plastic body, if it was metal it would be even heavier that it already is. If feels very sturdy in your hands also. I think the scope that is included with the psg-1 is great and it looks freeing sweet too. I have had a Tanaka m700 aics and a TM vsr-10 and I think that the psg1 is way better. I would get the psg-1 just because it is an overall awesome gun!
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« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2007, 11:34:10 pm » |
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Just look at that BIG list of CONs for the PSG-1.
well put. if you wanna stand out and are really looking for a project, get the PSG-1. if you just want the quickest, easiest, no B.S. way to what you want, go with the CA SPR
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« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2007, 11:40:22 pm » |
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Oh and the SPR comes stock at 440fps.
What are you talking about D.M.R.K. it is not 440fps stock, that is the price tag.
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« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2007, 12:55:52 am » |
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Actually, a few retailers I've seen have listed it as being "pre-upgraded" and shooting 440fps.
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« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2007, 02:20:03 am » |
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If you like the PSG-1 better, you should get it. All I have to say is that the PSG-1 will give you the intimidation factor and instant response, but the S.P.R. will probably be more practical and serve a broader role should you ever decide to drop it from sniper status to DMR or assault. Just make sure to get VN style short mags if going this route, or I will have to harm you. 
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« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2007, 03:35:25 pm » |
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Well its really not that i like the PSg-1 better its just that there arent as many of those as m16 snipers. Dont worry wraith i have this in mind for the M16
bipod mock silencer shortmags sniper handgrip 9.6 3600mah large battery foregrip and a awesome scope with illuminated reticule from cheaper than dirt ITs gonna be Hot!
I think that i am gonna go with the SPR, and Im talking about the one that came out like two or three months ago not the SR-25. I was looking at the list of cons on the PSG-1 I really want to be able to be mobile with it if I have to be so I think Ill stick with the SPR. OH and the RIS is good because im working on mounting a small camera on the the RIS for game footage.
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« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2007, 06:14:37 am » |
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Well its really not that i like the PSg-1 better its just that there arent as many of those as m16 snipers. Then why not go with the G3SG1?
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« Reply #12 on: January 13, 2007, 04:32:26 pm » |
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have you thought about the TM m14?
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« Reply #13 on: January 13, 2007, 06:00:43 pm » |
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I rate the stock performance of the TM M14. I have tanaka full power and VSR too so know what is good performance. Best AEG for a hunter, as very consistant with 0.25g ammo and quiet too. Weighs double a G-SPEC mind but just as accurate, due to similar HOP technology so far only standard on a few 6mm guns. Known as "V HOP".
I'm sure you know the rest but in my experience the TM M14 stands head and shoulders above the PSG1 in stock form and build quality. The PSG1 is not very practical due to length, weight and non standard gearbox design. Combined with the ability to take poor batteries just makes that thing a joke.
The PSG-1 scope is not a TASCO, it just has the license to put the name on it. It is garbage and terribly tunnel visioned. It is built onto the mounts and therefore cannot be adjusted for tilt on the cross hair. I have seen 1 where the crosshair was no where near level.
Upto you but either SPR or M14 over PSG1 is my advice.
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« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2007, 12:00:09 am » |
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I have experienced a m14 firsthand but i cant work on them and a person I play with already has one. I like them alot, but i want to be diffrent from anyone that I play with. I did look at a g3 sg1 but i want to go ahead and have steel gears and metal body. Yeah PSG1 just has too many down sides to it not to mention its a ridiculous amount of money.
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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2007, 10:53:42 pm » |
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given your FPS goles.. stay away from the PSG1, its not worth the hassel for such low power, I own one close to that range, its not worth it when a much shorter gun will shoot the same. like wize stay away from V2 gear boxes, you will crack the front end off over time.
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2007, 10:57:43 pm » |
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Upgrading it that much might mean the gears strip/jam and you can't use it for a while... like someone I know.
Honesty, I'd get an SPR, you'll be much happier, and you'll have much more potential. The PSG-1 can be a beast when upgraded, but frankly, it's not worth it.
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