JG BAR-10--Mini-Review and Modifications Thread *56K beware*

[sike]

Where should I buy "noobies anti-blow rings"?  (Link?) I can't find them through google.

Where should I buy a m130 laylax spring? (Link?)

[killer_shot]

"Noobies Anti-Blow Rings" I believe are made by someone by the name of Noobie on these forums.. you can most likely purchase the parts from him by PMing him on ASR:

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=8173

Here's a guide I found on how to install it:

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?topic=81338.0

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For the 130 spring you can get it here:

http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=443_465_467&products_id=3071


Also following up on my last post regarding Firefly/Nineball.. the Nineball has only 1 "kind" while Firefly has Hard and Soft. The usual route is if your fps <420fps goes Soft.. >420fps go Hard. Also make sure when you buy it says pistol or VSR-10 on it as Firefly and I think Nineball make buckings for AEG's also which are diff.

[MarineSGT]

Where should I buy "noobies anti-blow rings"?  (Link?) I can't find them through google.

Where should I buy a m130 laylax spring? (Link?)

Yes, from Noobie...PM him and he will get them to you.

I also posted a maintenance guide which includes the installation of the rings.  I thinks a little cleaner than the other pics that Killer_shot posted.  But good to see a few different examples.

Here:

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?topic=84373.0

And the Nineball bucking found on airsoftatlanta, it quite harder than the "hard" FireFly.  You would need a hop arm mod to use a FireFly.  The Nineball should suit your needs just fine, but I found it not to be a major increase from the stock bucking.  Noobie's arm, which he does not sell anymore, with a proper shape and a Hard FireFly works really great.

[sike]

thanks so much, guys....very cool to see the wise veterans help the dumb rookie.

[sike]

can someone post a link to a place where I can get a decent deal on the nineball bucking the BAR needs?

[jimmye]

asgi(airsoftgi) should have it btw dont double post use the modify button on you last post.

[killer_shot]

Airsoftgi:

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=5612

You can also buy Edgi barrel there if you don't want his spacers.

[sike]

What is the stock Bar-10 spring roughly the equivalent to?  M110, M120, M130?

[SVT Cobra]

What is the stock Bar-10 spring roughly the equivalent to?  M110, M120, M130?

I think its supposed to be an M120 now since the rifle shoots about 400 fps out of the box. I am not 100% sure though, so I could be wrong.

[sniperboy31]

I believe that it's in between the m120 and m130.

[sike]

You guys have been so much help in upgrading my Bar-10 (and spending my money!).  Thanks.

I have another question though, I am going to purchase Noobie's M Trigger and just bought the Orange Laylax Piston...I know that I need to purchase a Spring Guide now.  I naturally figured that buying the LayLax would be smart...but several of you guys have warned about problems with the Laylax Spring Guide being too small, which scares the heck out of me.

In your opinion What Spring Guide should I purchase?

[killer_shot]

You could order one from EdGI, though I'm not sure if it fits with Laylax parts you'll have to PM him on these forums about that. His US distro doesn't stock them you'll have to order from them directly.

As for PDI it should work as long as its 7mm but it's always best to keep your gun "one-brand" or whatever the term is called.

Some of my friends have purchased the Laylax Spring Guide regardless of its size and it seems to work fine for them so you can still try it.

Airsoft GI recently got a shipment of their own brand of VSR-10 upgrade parts if you live near them (Walnut, CA) you can call and ask about it.

[bnoji]

You could order one from EdGI, though I'm not sure if it fits with Laylax parts you'll have to PM him on these forums about that. His US distro doesn't stock them you'll have to order from them directly.

As for PDI it should work as long as its 7mm but it's always best to keep your gun "one-brand" or whatever the term is called.

Some of my friends have purchased the Laylax Spring Guide regardless of its size and it seems to work fine for them so you can still try it.

Airsoft GI recently got a shipment of their own brand of VSR-10 upgrade parts if you live near them (Walnut, CA) you can call and ask about it.

I think I know what parts ASGI is talking about

[sike]

I am wanting to install the new Laylax Orange Piston in my Bar 10 today, but I have one question for you guys...

In the package, the Orange piston came with a black O-Ring that I can't figure out how or where it fits on the Piston. 

I've searched pics of this piston on the net and none of them show this O Ring on the Piston...

Any help would be most appreciated.

[bnoji]

I am wanting to install the new Laylax Orange Piston in my Bar 10 today, but I have one question for you guys...

In the package, the Orange piston came with a black O-Ring that I can't figure out how or where it fits on the Piston. 

I've searched pics of this piston on the net and none of them show this O Ring on the Piston...

Any help would be most appreciated.

At the front (airbrake) end of the piston, there's a series of holes that extend into the groove which runs around the circumference.

The o-ring goes in that groove.

[sike]

At the front (airbrake) end of the piston, there's a series of holes that extend into the groove which runs around the circumference.

The o-ring goes in that groove.

Ben, is the O Ring supposed to fit losely or tightly?  Because the one I have is very loose.

[bnoji]

Ben, is the O Ring supposed to fit losely or tightly?  Because the one I have is very loose.

That's a common issue with the Laylax pistons. Most people put the stock o-ring on it. I'll check what size I used. I'm remembering -115 or -114, but I'm not sure.

[SVT Cobra]

Ben, is the O Ring supposed to fit loosely or tightly?  Because the one I have is very loose.

Its preferable that o-ring does not fit on loosely. However, you can always check to see if the o-ring is good for your rifle setup by doing a 60 second compression test. A good piston/o-ring combo should hold full pressure for 60 seconds.  

[sike]

Ok, so installing all my upgrades and putting humpty dumpty back together again I noticed something that just can't be right...

Every time I chamber a round, if I tilt the barrel downward, the BB rolls right out of the barrel onto the ground.

What the heck did I do wrong?

[xbeeongx]

Ok, so installing all my upgrades and putting humpty dumpty back together again I noticed something that just can't be right...
Every time I chamber a round, if I tilt the barrel downward, the BB rolls right out of the barrel onto the ground.

It might be your hop up is turned all the way off. If you fire a chambered round straight, does it appear to have less velocity or range?

[Javik]

Also, you may have put your bucking on wrong

[sike]

Also, you may have put your bucking on wrong

how do you put it on correctly?  Is there a guide?

[killer_shot]

@sike: Any dissassembly guide can be a guide to show you how to put it on correctly. There are several scattered about the interwebs as well as these forums.

http://groups.google.com/group/asgar/web/disassembly-guides

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I myself have a problem.. I've recently lost a piece that goes into the metal block that somewhat secures the hopup chamber to the outer barrel.. this piece in particular: http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/3055/magpiece.jpg

I have been told that without this piece my mags will not lock in correctly and it seems to be the case when I tested it. Does anyone know where I may buy one/replace one? It would be very much appreciated.