Topic: DM tactics? (Read 3396 times)

Slicer250 · « **on:** October 08, 2007, 05:41:48 PM »

Ok, so I'm going to get a DM gun sometime soon and I want to know what to kind of have an idea of what to do while on the field with it. I'm mostly used to my M3000 crossman which isn't really a DM gun and I just want to know what to do whenever I get my gun. Some things I would like to know are what tactics should I use? When I'm practicing with my gun what should I practice? Just things like that. Thanks. I'm getting a JG M16A2 V2 btw.

Akimbros · « **Reply #1 on:** October 08, 2007, 06:03:01 PM »

if you havn't been playing as a rifleman for a couple of years (or 6+ months) i would not suggest going the DM route, you simply don't have the skills needed to field your rifle properly. if so, first think i would do is get a new hop-up unit, Big Out h nub, firefly or prommy bucking, and a tightbore (6.01 dees best case, just stay away from Madbull unless your a gambler), and some type of optic if you need it. most importantly though, you need to learn how to hit something at 150-200 feet accurately, consecutively, and under stress.

drills that i like are shooting with someone else doing his pistol shooting above my head. just kinda gets you in the duress that sometimes happens on the field. granted, that is a small part of training, which should include acting with a squad (like you learned in your rifleman days) and then some more advanced drills, such as shooting the targets while your whole team searches for you.

Slicer250 · « **Reply #2 on:** October 08, 2007, 06:20:07 PM »

Well, my friend has a sniper and sometime he lends it to me in games i can hit people at about 160ft. The only thing about it that I don't like and turned me off the sniper route was the whole bolt action thing. It takes to long and the times when my team-mates are being stupid and I want to use a short burst so that the enemy will get his head down to give people time to get around for an ambush. And after this my friend told me I should be a DM, which could still hit people at the long-ish range area and then give short rapid bursts when needed. I've been playing airsoft for about a year and my friends are starting to get better guns, so my shotgun isn't exactly good against good snipers and AEG's. And the big to this whole airsoft thing is that I don't exactly have an income of money because I'm 14 so I can't buy a new hop up system for my crossman. But back to the DM thing would the M16 be a good gun for it?

Akimbros · « **Reply #3 on:** October 08, 2007, 06:50:05 PM »

meh, it has a long barrel and it has plenty of after market parts, but i just plain don't like M16's.

as for income, i could afford a TM AK-47 and enough gear to attend a good amount of Ops at your age, just start mowing lawns and shoveling snow, get a paper route, and start saving your income.

i would personally get the M16, (or a CYMA AK-47 for a more cost effective gun with far better looks) and stick with being a rifleman for a while, learn how AEGs shoot and work, and then in a year or two, use some of the money that you have saved up and make the leap to DM status if that is still what you want to do. my original plan was to become a DM, but there is not much better than being the member of a squad, supporting each other, and making a team of four individuals into one deadly, effective weapon.

Slicer250 · « **Reply #4 on:** October 08, 2007, 07:03:21 PM »

Thanks for the advice, i think I'll just get a rifle like you said and stick with it for awhile and get money enough to upgrade it to be a longer range rifle, then be a DM.

Point Shoot3r · « **Reply #5 on:** October 08, 2007, 08:20:03 PM »

Oh and by the way he ment a new hop up for the m16, not your shotgun.

Slicer250 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 09, 2007, 02:43:11 PM »

oh, lol, that would make a difference.

Tullamore · « **Reply #7 on:** October 09, 2007, 04:57:05 PM »

DM tactics? Shoot the other team.

Slicer250 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 09, 2007, 07:29:31 PM »

Thats pretty original right there, but I'm talking about either being more defensive and staying back, or going up front with the AEG people. Stuff like that.

doughboy674 · « **Reply #9 on:** October 09, 2007, 08:16:06 PM »

If you could hit someone consistently from 160ft with a sniper rifle, then you wouldn't be bad as a DM. But you should definately get a few games under your belt first. Get a gun that is good enough for a rifleman, but that you can upgrade easily. That JG would be fine, as long as you know the right upgrades for it. I would suggest, if budget permits, upgrading some things in the hopup area when you get it, and some optics, regardless of your DM status, and you should be good to go.

clohrjr16 · « **Reply #10 on:** October 09, 2007, 08:27:53 PM »

Well, dm tactics are defined by the title. Be able to accurately hit long range targets, and do it quickly. As well as support your teammates, and do it sufficiently. You still have assaulter in you, but want to try ranged combat, get an m14. The skill on the field is not always defined through your weapon.

TehLlama · « **Reply #11 on:** October 09, 2007, 08:58:03 PM »

If your friend has a sniper, I'd actually go towards spotter end with this one, which is a little bit simpler to define -- your job is to keep your sniper in one piece, if you have an acceptable optic, tell him which way he missed, or which foe to engage first, and most importantly, watch his back/help engage anybody approaching.

It's a lot of fun, and my kits are actually built around assisting a sniper, it's just that I usually task myself withing a group of riflemen which shticks me as a marksman.

For now, I'd go with rifleman, and start developing the side set of skills for a spotter.

Slicer250 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 10, 2007, 03:23:32 PM »

ok, so i think this would work is i wait until christmas to get some money, but i would have to save up some too. if i get this gun http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_150&products_id=2303 this barrel http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=31_55&products_id=2749 and this sight http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=36_117&products_id=252 would it be a good combination? Any other combinations for upgradebale gun into a dm would be helpful.

maxrezn · « **Reply #13 on:** October 10, 2007, 05:49:46 PM »

Quote from: Slicer250 on October 10, 2007, 03:23:32 PM

ok, so i think this would work is i wait until christmas to get some money, but i would have to save up some too. if i get this gun http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=139_24_150&products_id=2303 this barrel http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=31_55&products_id=2749 and this sight http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?cPath=36_117&products_id=252 would it be a good combination? Any other combinations for upgradebale gun into a dm would be helpful.

Was that a joke?

To make a gun a DMR you'd need at least the following:
-M120 Spring
-Metal Bushings
-G&P m120 Motor
-G&P Piston
-Bearing spring guide
-Firefly Bucking
-KM Head or DB barrel
-Big Out Nub or pen nub
-Deans
-9.6v 3300mah battery

This would be a decent rifle with a minimal trigger response time. I have built 2 DMRs so I think I know what makes one. As a matter of fact, I'm about to start building another one tonight..JG AK beta that a guy wants me to upgrade to hell..go figure.

Slicer250 · « **Reply #14 on:** October 10, 2007, 06:34:34 PM »

Thanks for the info, i'm a new guy to all this mods for airsoft guns and stuff so if i say something stupid, just tell me.

maxrezn · « **Reply #15 on:** October 10, 2007, 09:51:20 PM »

Your right, I shouldn't have been so rude. It's easy to forget that we all asked those questions when we first started with airsoft.

Point Shoot3r · « **Reply #16 on:** October 12, 2007, 12:07:16 AM »

Awww how cute, appologies are the best! lol anyways, if your heart is set on an ak, maybe you could put a tightbore in it, a new hop up, a new spring, and an extended barrell with a mock silencer and youd have a pretty long range gun, and didnt you say you dont play with alot of other high powered guns or am i dreaming? It is late....

Mosp · « **Reply #17 on:** October 12, 2007, 12:56:40 AM »

I don't know why you feel the need to absolutely max out a gearbox to go dm. To be a dm it isn't about having an uber leet gun its all about how you play. I play a dm role with a severely underpowered and stock rifle, but I seem to manage just fine every game.

White_Feather84 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 12, 2007, 01:34:10 AM »

I'm running a Marui on a Guarder SP-110, Steel Gears, Spring Guide w/ bearing and Systema bushings. The stock hop up unit is flat out amazing, it can hit targets at 200 feet easy. Also the stock pistons are tanks, I've been running this set up for awhile and have had zero problems.

As for tactics you gotta stay with the team, your always in front of them or with them, never stay behind your squad. Thats the support gunners job. Name of the game is fire and manuever. That means you cannot have a bolt action rifle. It simply will not work, as for AK-47's that is a big no no. Ignore the threats that are in range of your riflemen, look for snipers or men out of a normal AEG's range. Don't bother with ghillie suits, they will only slow you down. Go for a riflemen like loadout, that way everything is accessible.

Mosp · « **Reply #19 on:** October 12, 2007, 11:23:34 AM »

I don't think that there are a set style of tactics you should use to be considered a dm, and I don't really think any sort of home training you will do will help you out besides target shooting and learning your own gun.

The only thing that really makes me different from the rest of my team is that my gun is always in semi and never leaves to auto.

Sometimes I am with my team talking to long shots, sometimes I am charging a bunker, sometimes laying down cover fire, sometimes hiding behind a bush picking off people from the flank. There really is no set dm tactics, it is all about adapting to what the team could use most.

Slicer250 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 12, 2007, 03:34:17 PM »

Ok, so with all that info would THIS be a good combo?
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=2163
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=118
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=1636
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=421
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=2294
http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.php?products_id=2268
and probably a tightbore later, but would it be good?

Akimbros · « **Reply #21 on:** October 12, 2007, 03:45:42 PM »

unsure about the parts, i don't know anything about the ICS spring, or the Echo 1 piston head. replace the Systema rubber with a Laylax or Firefly.

http://airsofttactics.blogspot.com/
scroll to the bottom and reader Sniper 1&2. they outline the basics of sniping that would be beneficial for you to know.

benelli_m3 · « **Reply #22 on:** October 12, 2007, 04:43:58 PM »

you forgot bushings and shims. do echo1 V2 come with metal bushings. i would get a tightbore first and go with some more up market upgrade parts. what is your kind of budget for your gun. i know akimbros already said this to you, but being any type of specified role i nairsoft e.g. support gunner, sniper, DM generaly costs quiet abit of money so it would probily be a good idea to get a job.

im surprised no one flamed him about his friend saying he has a sniper and sometimes he lends it to him and he can hit people at 160 feet with it.

Slicer250 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 12, 2007, 06:31:19 PM »

Well, as for the money I'm going to start asking to mow peoples lawns that live around my house and normally when I shoot the person from 160, they don't expect it and theyr'e standing still so its like just like shooting a mailbox. And thanks Akimbros for the sniper thing, it really tells you a lot.

KyPlinker · « **Reply #24 on:** October 12, 2007, 10:49:44 PM »

Just move with your squad, and practice with your weapon enough to be able to make the accurate shots that the other rifleman cant take. That, in essence, is a DM. Now, to do this, you need, as mentioned before, simple practice. However, practice, good as it is, is greatly aided with the installation of a tight bore barrel, a metal spring guide and bushings, a good shim job, and at least a 350 FPS spring, (With a good hop up). Just practice taking out small targets from far away, and your all set, as that is the job of a DM.

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