Topic: ICS M4 Beginners Guide Discussion *56k Warning* (Read 151598 times)

XavierMace · « **Reply #1100 on:** October 23, 2010, 03:06:22 PM »

SRC isn't an upgrade but yeah, you could do that.

icecold · « **Reply #1101 on:** October 23, 2010, 03:20:08 PM »

Fair enough. Any aftermarket stuff you recommend?

YamstheGreat · « **Reply #1102 on:** October 26, 2010, 09:48:39 PM »

Quote from: icecold on October 23, 2010, 03:20:08 PM

Fair enough. Any aftermarket stuff you recommend?

Well, I know I'm not Xavier, but I have a Guarder full tune up kit. Came with a metal spring guide, metal cylinder head, awesome piston and piston head, air nozzle, and a cylinder. Works great. Oh, and the JBU free float RIS works on my ICS M4, and so does the Dboys clubfoot stock. :3

XavierMace · « **Reply #1103 on:** October 26, 2010, 11:08:15 PM »

As far as internals go, in my ICS's, I've had the best luck with Guarder and Systema parts. Not sure about the modify parts yet, have to get a new spring in first.

YamstheGreat · « **Reply #1104 on:** October 29, 2010, 11:44:48 AM »

Hey, anyone know why my gun doesn't like springs over M110s? Like, I've had an element 115 in there, which should be shooting at around 390-400 fps, and an Systema M120 in there that should be shooting over 400 fps, but for some reason, on the higher powered springs, my gun only shoots a little over 200. Any suggestions?

MetallicaFatCat · « **Reply #1105 on:** October 29, 2010, 11:46:34 AM »

Is it an ICS? Your description is very vague and I'm guessing you have some blow by issues.

YamstheGreat · « **Reply #1106 on:** October 29, 2010, 12:07:10 PM »

It's an ICS M4. Just traded my WE Scar for it a few weeks ago. It's the black-bodied Anniversary model. It has a Guarder FTK and I'm pretty sure it has new Guarder gears too.

XavierMace · « **Reply #1107 on:** October 29, 2010, 12:13:09 PM »

Then you have an airseal problem somewhere. Is the hopup missing it's spring?

YamstheGreat · « **Reply #1108 on:** October 29, 2010, 12:21:42 PM »

Quote from: XavierMace on October 29, 2010, 12:13:09 PM

Then you have an airseal problem somewhere. Is the hopup missing it's spring?

That might be the problem. You see, the stock ICS hop-up has crapped out on me twice, so I kind of glued it together half-hazardly and just put a spring I found in there to help the feeding problems. I have a new hop-up on the way. The problem is just that with weaker springs, I get speeds of over 360 and with a higher powered spring, I would assume, would give me an even higher feet per second reading, but it was slower than any other spring.

XavierMace · « **Reply #1109 on:** October 29, 2010, 01:03:03 PM »

Not if the higher air pressure is pushing the chamber further from the nozzle.

YamstheGreat · « **Reply #1110 on:** October 29, 2010, 08:15:26 PM »

So you're saying I should put a secondary spring in? And I'm using a G&P hop-up chamber in my ICS... the guy who I received it from modded it correctly and everything, yet it still doesn't feed unless I push on my magazines... any reason why that happens?

motorhead · « **Reply #1111 on:** October 29, 2010, 08:16:46 PM »

Sounds like your mag isn't seating high enough to me.

The Funk · « **Reply #1112 on:** October 29, 2010, 09:51:44 PM »

Sorry, but I didn't really know where to put this. Where can I find spare screws for the ICS Gearboxes? 2 of mine have already worn out to the point where you can't screw/unscrew them.

XavierMace · « **Reply #1113 on:** October 30, 2010, 12:39:21 AM »

Quote from: The Funk on October 29, 2010, 09:51:44 PM

Sorry, but I didn't really know where to put this. Where can I find spare screws for the ICS Gearboxes? 2 of mine have already worn out to the point where you can't screw/unscrew them.

Join the club.

The Funk · « **Reply #1114 on:** October 30, 2010, 10:46:47 AM »

Quote from: XavierMace on October 30, 2010, 12:39:21 AM

Join the club.

ARRRRGGGHH!!! Do you think these are really like specific screws or just the average screws you can find at home depot/lowes?

Burke · « **Reply #1115 on:** October 30, 2010, 11:29:41 AM »

Probably metric. Go to home depot, bring a screw with you. Find out the size and pitch of the screw, then go online to mcmastercarr and order the correct sized screws.

XavierMace · « **Reply #1116 on:** October 30, 2010, 03:44:43 PM »

Quote from: Burke on October 30, 2010, 11:29:41 AM

Probably metric. Go to home depot, bring a screw with you. Find out the size and pitch of the screw, then go online to mcmastercarr and order the correct sized screws.

Bzzzt. Wrong answer, try again.

I've been trying to find replacement screws for a long time. I have yet to find them. Or stock adapter screws.

The Funk · « **Reply #1117 on:** October 30, 2010, 04:39:54 PM »

Quote from: XavierMace on October 30, 2010, 03:44:43 PM

I've been trying to find replacement screws for a long time. I have yet to find them. Or stock adapter screws.

Man, that's not exactly what I wanted to hear...If you find them XM, let me know

YamstheGreat · « **Reply #1118 on:** October 30, 2010, 07:55:17 PM »

Quote from: motorhead on October 29, 2010, 08:16:46 PM

Sounds like your mag isn't seating high enough to me.

And how would I go about fixing this? It could just be the aftermarket hop-up being retarded with my mags.

Burke · « **Reply #1119 on:** October 31, 2010, 02:07:29 PM »

Quote from: XavierMace on October 30, 2010, 03:44:43 PM

Bzzzt. Wrong answer, try again.

I've been trying to find replacement screws for a long time. I have yet to find them. Or stock adapter screws.

So they're not metric?

SlasheI2 · « **Reply #1120 on:** October 31, 2010, 03:29:38 PM »

I had this same problem with the screws on my upper gearbox. I went to my local hobbytownusa store and picked up a bag of hex screws which were a perfect fit. Now I'm not sure if these screws will fit the lower gearbox but they might be the same. If they're not, the store a many more sizes which would probably fit.

pics:

I found some online and these might be the right ones:
http://www.rcplanet.com/O_Donnell_Flat_Head_Screw_p/odoq0108.htm

So far they've been holding up well, no stripping because of the hex heads.

Hope this helped!

XavierMace · « **Reply #1121 on:** October 31, 2010, 04:14:15 PM »

That's two screws, what about the top ones? Those are the ones that usually strip out.

Burke · « **Reply #1122 on:** October 31, 2010, 05:31:10 PM »

Metric, pitch should be the same, I dont see them using a different tap for diffrent holes in the gearbox. Just the length will be shorter...

DHM78 · « **Reply #1123 on:** October 31, 2010, 05:36:29 PM »

Quote from: Burke on October 31, 2010, 05:31:10 PM

Metric, pitch should be the same, I dont see them using a different tap for diffrent holes in the gearbox. Just the length will be shorter...

Nope. They are different (smaller). And unfortunately, those ones like to strip more.

The Funk · « **Reply #1124 on:** October 31, 2010, 06:26:13 PM »

I guess all I can do is get those hex screws for now since I do need some. If you don't mind, can you try the hex screws on the lower gb if you get the chance?

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