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will u preorder it

wait a while

w8 till a freind gets it

not get it at all

u think echo1/jg sucks

[Lieinwait]

Allizard, I never said anything about the internals, I avoided that because I don't know if they will be good or not and wanted to wait and see, and also to avoid comments like yours... but it seems I wasn't clear enough. All I said was the body has a bad finish, and the pictures show just that, however that is just my opinion, you don't have to act like I'm encroaching upon yours.
-Lieinwait

[PsychoticWolf]

Why the bloody hell you guys always judged a book by it's cover?!!  You haven't even seen the real thing yet.  Just wait until the release date then decided if it's got a crappy body or not. 

Yea you shouldn't bash on it if you dont even know how it's going to preform. As for me i'll wait for a review and the price before i decide. As for the finish, As long as it works its ok, I'll just paint over it.

[yee245]

All I said was the body has a bad finish, and the pictures show just that

It it just me, or does it looks like someone didn't clean their (oily) hands before handling this and then photographing it?

[allizard]

Allizard, I never said anything about the internals, I avoided that because I don't know if they will be good or not and wanted to wait and see, and also to avoid comments like yours... but it seems I wasn't clear enough. All I said was the body has a bad finish, and the pictures show just that, however that is just my opinion, you don't have to act like I'm encroaching upon yours.
-Lieinwait

I wasn't even talking about internal.  And it's not specific to you only.  I said YOU GUYS.  opinion is fine.  Grand it I'll blame Echo1 for taking louzy photo.  But I think it's wiser to reserve judgement until the real thing is here at the store.  Then you can bash whatever your want.   

[Booligan]

Why should Booligan review it? He doesn't even open the gearbox on his guns!

Lies and slander, lol... I do open the gearboxes on all the guns I review (provided the tools weren't lost in shipping, lol)

But on topic, this looks pretty interesting. Happy I didn't give up hope and order the TM.

[xM1NtYxFr3Shx]

booligan, dont wait for this clone...
you should get the TM, its worth every penny + some

[Booligan]

booligan, dont wait for this clone...
you should get the TM, its worth every penny + some

I don't buy TM's if I can avoid it. Only TM I currently own is a FAMAS, and I only got it because:
1. It was the only FAMAS option at the time.
2. It was only $100 with several mags, battery, rail, etc...

You're preaching to the wrong choir buddy, I'm the king of owning clone guns, lol.

Edit: I've been dethroned as king before I could even take the reigns of the kingdom Thanks alot Sgtwiltan!
I'll settle for Arch Duke. Maybe Treasurer. As long as I get wenches.

[zackman1801]

You're preaching to the wrong choir buddy, I'm the king of owning clone guns, lol.

and why shouldent you, if you have the expertise to keep them running your better off!

i really cant wait for this thing, it looks soo nice...i just hope i dont come up with the money and talk myself out of it because there are a million other things i need at the time......its a shame really.

[xM1NtYxFr3Shx]

(not trying to fight) maybe thats the problem, you've avoided non-clones and lost the feeling of the first/true makers =P

enough about that, back to the ECHO1...the weird thing is that it also has those ECHO1 trademarks on the P90, idk if that is standard on clone guns

[Booligan]

(not trying to fight) maybe thats the problem, you've avoided non-clones and lost the feeling of the first/true makers =P

Wrong again, lol. I've had my share of "high end" guns, and they always left me disappointed, especially for the price I paid.
I would MUCH rather spend half the price and get a gun that works just as well, and use the leftover cash for longetivity and performance upgrades, giving me a gun that performs better, looks better, and will last longer than the "high end" gun for most likely less cash.

If you have any more questions about why I choose clone guns, PM me, and we can keep it out of the forums.

enough about that, back to the ECHO1...the weird thing is that it also has those ECHO1 trademarks on the P90, idk if that is standard on clone guns

They always have whatever company is making the gun for them put E1 trades on it. Nothing new.

[allizard]

I'm 100% with Booligan on this. 

Echo1 SG1 is better than TM original.  But I'm getting off topic.

This is really about Echo1 P90.  And from the 1st impression on the prototype I think this will be very good alternative compare to TM P90.

[Kleiss22]

this pics make it look terrible i can see the screws  and i like smooth guns lol

have you ever seen a real P90?

they have all the same screws.

[DeltaForce404]

You guys noticed that in one of the close up pics, the mag says hi-cap and it has fake bullets also.

[Sgtwiltan]

I don't buy TM's if I can avoid it. Only TM I currently own is a FAMAS, and I only got it because:
1. It was the only FAMAS option at the time.
2. It was only $100 with several mags, battery, rail, etc...

You're preaching to the wrong choir buddy, I'm the king of owning clone guns, lol.

I might challenge that kingship as I own almost 70% of every Clone MPEG (not counting all the subvariants per maker) and sometimes multiple copies of a type. The other 30% are mostly the metal AKs and some of the newer metal bodied ARs.

I have every P90 AEG manufacturer's model at the moment from the TM to the Lowly D90 LPEG as well as the better R9 Lpeg. I'd use my R9 more had the mags worked better and the availability and pricing of the TM mags been better. This I'd get more for the mags as well as a backup for my AWP over a pistol. 

[USMC-Delta]

Taken from world guns, Yes theres screw holes.
world.guns.ru/smg/fn_p90_5.jpg

[Captain_Kev]

Echo1 SG1 is better than TM original.  But I'm getting off topic.

It's not fair to compare these clones to some of the original Tokyo Marui releases. Of course the JG is going to be better! But you start comparing them to their newer releases (G36C, P90, M14, Type 89) and it's a lot harder to say that.

All I have to say is: I hope to god that this thing is CYMA.

[Fleet Silhouette]

FINALLY! I had been holding out for the Classic Army P90(s), but an Echo1 will suit me just fine. The body could use a bit of textured paint, but the metal upper is (could be?) win.

I hope this means a demand for more P90 aftermarket parts.

All I have to say is: I hope to god that this thing is CYMA.

Ah, remember the days when no one wished it was a CYMA?

[Captain_Kev]

I remembered the days, yes. Then they released the CM027, the gun that changed everything...

[TheSnowman]

awesome, I might get this as a CQB gun when I get a part time job.


(p.s. Hi, i'm new to the forums)

[Kleiss22]

my money is on CYMA, they already had a gun with a V6 gearbox that preforms great.

or it could be a MGB R9....but I really dbout that!

[bdogg101]

FINALLY an affordable P90, can't wait till its released!

[Sgtwiltan]

Pricing is going to be over $200. Its not that affordable. TM versions can be had for less than $50 more than th E1.

[xM1NtYxFr3Shx]

Welcome snowman.

FINALLY an affordable P90, can't wait till its released!

TM P90 is already affordable.  Ok, I admit, It may be a little on the expensive side but at the bottom.  $260 shipped is a really good price.  Also, if the ECHO1 P90 is going to be $200+, might as well save for the TM unless it contains important features (ex. [good] mosfet).

[PsychoticWolf]

Yea ture, there has to be something important in to be over +200 but still for that price i might just get a TM.

[allizard]

It's not fair to compare these clones to some of the original Tokyo Marui releases. Of course the JG is going to be better! But you start comparing them to their newer releases (G36C, P90, M14, Type 89) and it's a lot harder to say that.

Sure it is fair.  I'm just pointing out the obvious for those TM Fan boys flawed logic.  The fact is ... not all TM's a godly and not all ACM are crappy.    oh.. like the sound of it... it rhymes together.