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Mars007

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spring guide stopper shim for BAR-10/vsr-10
« on: August 12, 2009, 02:13:43 PM »

I realize that there have been a number of posts about BAR 10's and related guns slam firing, and I have read many if not all of them. I still have questions.

I got the gun from Airsoftgi and it started working ok. Then I opened it up, cleaned the hop up bucking and the barrel, cut the air brake halfway down, and put some teflon tape on the threads of the cylinder head. I made sure everything was lubed properly and all the parts were put together properly. It may not be important, but after that the gun could barely crack the top of a coke can with .20's. Then after about a magazine of rounds, it started slam firing  >:(

I tried just about everything from the troubleshooting guides with limited success, but it always eventually starts slam firing again. I actually got some stainless steel M3 screws (along with some split lock washers) to replace the pathetic ones it came with (to attach the trigger box to the receiver).

The screws are tight (but not over-tight), the bolt moves smoothly enough and doesn't wiggle, the sears are almost brand new with no cracks and very little wear, There is little if any wear on the piston, and I tried shimming the spring guide stopper. Actually I also fixed the pin that the trigger sear swivels on because it was allowing the trigger sear to wiggle to the side; that really helped and I got a few magazines worth of shots out of that, but then it started slam firing again!  :o

What is the proper way to shim the spring guide stopper?

BTW, another thing that bothers me is that there is a substantial gap between the trigger box and the receiver, even with the screws on tight. Do you think this might be the problem? Might I need a new trigger box? At some point, I'll either get a Zero Trigger or M trigger, but I don't currently have the finances. (How much does the m trigger cost anyway? I looked and thread and couldn't find it) (or what about a V-trig?)
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rotodyne

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Re: spring guide stopper shim for BAR-10/vsr-10
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2009, 10:46:40 PM »

Can't help much about the problems without the gun in my hands but the m trigg is about 110 shipped as far as i know.
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Re: spring guide stopper shim for BAR-10/vsr-10
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2009, 09:36:01 PM »

update:

My gun has recently been working ok! I've gotten a number of magazines worth of rounds through it so far. We'll see how long that lasts, but I think it will be reliable now.

solution:
Besides sanding the top of the trigger box to give a tighter fit and shimming the gap between the trigger sear and trigger, there was a major problem. The back of the receiver was wobbly, so that the trigger box could be pushed away from the receiver which I'm pretty sure was the primary cause of the slam firing.

I looked back at the exploded chart in the manual and noticed that a small hex screw in the top of the receiver was holding the rearmost piece in. I actually looked at my gun and the hex screw wasn't really in properly so I took it out. Since I was going to have a scope on anyway, I just got a few stainless steel M3 by 8mm screws (from Ace Hardware, awesome store) and used those to screw down the weaver rail. (I got the screws mainly because my gun didn't come with all of the ones I needed)

so far it's held up quite well. I've probably put about 5 magazines through it since then.
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