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The Peel
« on: October 10, 2009, 12:37:33 AM »

I've been reading some of the tactics posted here and I've seen nothing really substantial.  Some interesting ideas, but nothing useful as a rifleman carrying an AEG.  My favorite as I know it from training with the Australian Army is the "Peel".  It's quite effective.  Possibly mentioned or covered here before, but I can't find any mention to it.

Again I know it as the Australian Peel from the Marines, but AKA; The Tunnel of Love, Center Peel, and Aussie Peelback.  Great if you run into a jam with your squad and are over powered.

Wikipedia explains it best, no need to re-type...

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Center_Peel
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Re: The Peel
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2009, 10:53:06 AM »

Is this how it works?  Thanks for an actual tactics thread.  I haven't seen a good one in monthes.

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Then does the number one guy peel next to the number 4?

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Is this right?

MarineSGT you need to share your knowledge with us on tactics!
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Re: The Peel
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2009, 11:36:17 AM »

You got it Ghillie...

It all happens very fast and should, as the squad leader fires, the second provides supression, as the leader retreats, and so on...Practice this with your team like dance moves...

Great tactic to get you out of a sticky situation.  Much firepower, very fast maneuver well orchestrated, and before you know it, you can re-group and attempt another attack.  Beauty is that you will have the G2 to know where your enemy is.

Of course a proper squad would be best with ~ support gunners (high ROF, high mag capacity - M249 type), rifleman (AEG guys - M16/4, MP5, SCAR), and a sniper w/ spotter helping the cause.  Well that is ideal but in an average skirmish you have 5 to 6 people in a squad all with AEGs and maybe a sniper.  This works well when crap hits the fan.

I'll post some more if you'd like.  I have much to share from the Corps.  It's a bit different when dealing with lead, but same rules apply with plastic  ;)
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Re: The Peel
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2009, 12:33:40 PM »

Excellent post, MarineSGT ;) I remeber seeing this tactic used with a Navy Seals squad on a television program on the Seals. I think that this is a great tactic for  pulling back when the crap hits the fan. Not a move for those afraid of using too mnay bbs though ;D
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Re: The Peel
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2009, 01:56:01 PM »

This has been brought up before & there was even a video of it in action (Navy SEALs).

« Last Edit: October 10, 2009, 02:00:25 PM by RLB »
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Re: The Peel
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2009, 10:27:10 PM »

Thanks for the video link RLB.  It may have been brought up before but many members have not seen or heard about it.  I unfortunatelly had to actually perform this very maneuver in a real situation.  It works, its effective, and thats why I posted it.  One of my favorites.

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Re: The Peel
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2009, 12:32:59 PM »

This tactic is very helpful when you're under heavy fire. However in the video it seems the SEALs do a full spin before they peel out, does anyone have a reason for this manuver?
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Re: The Peel
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2009, 01:03:14 PM »

I suppose by putting their back to the enemy, they'll know where they're going in such dense jungle, and be able to watch out for the other guys' line of fire. And plus, the same person has to tap the shoulder of the guy behind him to give the signal.

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Re: The Peel
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2009, 05:32:01 PM »

I think its just fun to do in airsoft.
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Re: The Peel
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2009, 11:59:48 PM »

Taking the entire enemy team out with your M60 single-handedly, now THAT's fun in airsoft.  They'll be peeling all over the place.

True story.
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Re: The Peel
« Reply #10 on: October 12, 2009, 09:41:10 PM »

Taking the entire enemy team out with your M60 single-handedly, now THAT's fun in airsoft.  They'll be peeling all over the place.

True story.

Everyone has a great game, unlike my Jets lately, but that is for another site and chat.  The peel is a great tactic and works very well.  Use it for what its worth.  Although I practice it and posted this thread, my most favorite tactic relates to being trigger happy but tactical, Hardcore style...

More to come  >:( 
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Re: The Peel
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2009, 07:15:52 PM »

Regarding for the peel, I remember a piece of advice saying that you can never truly prepare for a confilct, cause it never turns out the way you want it.  I try and coordinate with teammates to try tactics like the peel and leapfrog and so on, but it always crumbles to bits once the plastic starts flying.

I guess that's what intensive and extensive training is for  :P.
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Re: The Peel
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2009, 07:43:04 PM »

How about a new tactic called "hold it together".  Practice and stick to the maneuver; whichever it is.  They work and its group practice that makes it work.  Once plastic starts flying its time to focus on the mission and not get overwhelmed by action.  Focus is the keyword here along with a team that knows eachother's next step and where they are supposed to be. 

It's all about practice and then some.  Then stick to it and not freak out when BBs start flying.
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Re: The Peel
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2009, 11:54:14 PM »

mario, it's called "discipline".

The one thing about airsoft that airsofters forget is that it's OK to get shot & die. You will eventually regen & get back in the game. With that in mind ...

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... tactics like the peel and leapfrog and so on, but it always crumbles to bits once the plastic starts flying.

... should really not happen as long as the people performing the maneuver know how to do it. No one is going to really die or get hurt, so a disciplined group should be able to perform it every time. Sure, maybe not everyone goes unscathed, but it shouldn't "crumble" out of panic or disarray.
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Re: The Peel
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2009, 06:51:24 PM »

mario, it's called "discipline".

The one thing about airsoft that airsofters forget is that it's OK to get shot & die. You will eventually regen & get back in the game. With that in mind ...

... should really not happen as long as the people performing the maneuver know how to do it. No one is going to really die or get hurt, so a disciplined group should be able to perform it every time. Sure, maybe not everyone goes unscathed, but it shouldn't "crumble" out of panic or disarray.


I forgot to mention that I'm talking in terms of walk-on public games with strangers.  Private games I have no problem executing tactics like this.  I have plenty of discipline.
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Re: The Peel
« Reply #15 on: October 20, 2009, 09:13:17 AM »

MarineSGT, you'll be pleased to hear that the Army (at least, the Cavalry Scouts) also train the Australian Peel, and call it the same. In real life, we're trained to empty the mag, then reload as we make our tactical advance to the rear. When airsofting it, with 300+ round magazines where do you make the cutoff and peel back?
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Re: The Peel
« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2009, 06:19:31 PM »

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When airsofting it, with 300+ round magazines where do you make the cutoff and peel back?
I guess that it depends if you use midcaps, lowcaps, or hicaps. For hicaps, I would say shoot enough that you put people's heads down ;)
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Re: The Peel
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2009, 05:59:53 PM »

shoot until its safe to move for that moment. For my m249 its a few second bursts because everyone knows the sound of my gun and hit the deck immediately :P.

we also run a modified peel move. My squad is a 5 man group. 2 teams of 2 in split formation with me in the middle all within visual contact.  the two teams peel on the sides while i give cover over the entire front and then give 2 angles of covering fire while i move
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Re: The Peel
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2009, 12:54:22 AM »

This tactic is very helpful when you're under heavy fire. However in the video it seems the SEALs do a full spin before they peel out, does anyone have a reason for this manuver?
The full spin is performed in order to not sweep your partners with your weapons, expedite your getting up,  and allow you to load your primary foot before sprinting with your bodyweight.  There are several groups in the sof community, both LE and mil, that do it this way.  I have been on teams that do it both ways.
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Re: The Peel
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2009, 02:32:48 PM »

Thats a great tactic to hear about. I think that using it to draw the Op-For into a pincer or ambush would be great. any ideas on how sniper support works into it?
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