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Note: his review is of one of the Guns from the very first shipment of R-6’s to be shipped into the states. Quality has improved greatly, with most guns shooting in the 280 +/- 10 Fps range.
If you are an Airsoft fan, who has NOT been living under a rock for the past few months, you have probably heard at least something about the Well R-6 AEG. This is Wells first attempt at breaking away from its LPEG roots and joining the growing market for Low Cost Automatic Electric Guns. It is a worthy attempt, but in its stock form, falls short of the mark.
1. Ordering
2. First Impressions
3. Gun size and feel
4. Internals
5. Performance
6. Overall
1. Ordering.
Like many of you I have been watching and waiting for the arrival of Wells R-6, Airsoft version of the M4 assault rifle. When Evike.com began pre-ordering for them at a cost of around $130 I was excited at the prospect of yet another quality Aeg in the same vein as the UTG MP5a4/a5, but was unwilling to bet that much money on an unproven product, especially with the mixed reviews the gun received from the ACM forum.
I probably would have let it go at that until an Ebay Airsoft seller began auctions for the gun, claiming to have them in stock and ready to ship out. The seller was Unique Airsoft, and he was true to his word. I purchased my R-6 at auction Thursday evening, Oct 26, and Unique had gun in my hands in six days. Shipped from Florida to Washington State no less! Cost was $68.01 with $19.99 shipping and handling, total cost $88.00. Unique Airsoft was a pleasure to do business with, and I recommend them to anyone who is considering an Airsoft purchase from Ebay.
2. First impression.
You have all, I am sure, seen the package, standard Styrofoam packing, cleaning rod, cheap sling and cheaper BBs, so I’ll waste no more time on them. At first glance I must say I was a bit underwelmed. The gun looked a bit like the springers I have seen hanging on the Wall at the Local Jungle toys store. There has been no attempt to make the plastic look anything other than what it is, Plastic. This is fine with the M4 style Butt stock and fore grips, but the receivers and barrel look like plain black plastic.
Fine, what should I expect for eighty eight bucks? The 300 MaH trickle charger and 8.4 volt 1050 Mah NiMH battery are almost exactly the same as those that came with my UTG MP5, probably purchased from the same vendor. No surprises here then, the UTG battery and charger have served well enough, these should be fine.
3. Gun size and feel.
Assembling the gun is just a matter of sliding the buttstock onto the tabs at the rear of the lower receiver and plugging in the battery and fitting it into the fore grip. Which brings me to the first problem. The fore grips are removed just like the real rifle, by sliding back the delta ring to release the tabs at the end of the grip. Doing this on the real M4 involves much effort and cursing, but sliding back the delta ring on the Well took no effort at all, unfortunately. The spring in the delta ring was so weak that the slightest bump would drop the hand guard off and leave you with your battery all a-dangle and a surprised look on your face. The fix for this involves taking the spring off and stretching it out, then re-coiling it so that it fits under the delta ring. Easy in concept, frustrating in execution.
Laying out the assembled R-6 next to my real M4 I was pleased to see that while some dimensions are a bit off by and large the weapons are identical. The R-6 barrel is a bit shorter than the M4s Law mandated 16 inch barrel, but that is all. The removable carry handles are interchangeable, and except for the plastic finish on the r-6 indistinguishable from more than a couple feet. The A-2 sight is functionally identical to the real thing, with a wide aperture battle sight and a peep sight. It is adjustable for windage and elevation, and works quite well.
Metal parts include the front sling swivel, trigger, flat top rail and takedown pins.
Unfortunately, the outer barrel, front sight and flash suppressor are molded of one piece of plastic, making customization of the muzzle a bit more difficult.
The gun has enough weight to feel good, mostly from weights in the stock, and the gearbox/battery. There is a little bit flex to the gun, but not too bad. Just enough to remind you that it is plastic.
4. Internals.
The R-6 uses a type 2 gearbox that looks quite good. The casting is clean and the metal seems to be of good quality. Most of the components seem to be of good quality as well. Gears, tappet plate, piston etc, look very much like the ones used in the UTG MP5.
The problem is in the assembly of those components. On my gearbox the screw that holds the trigger mechanism in place was driven through the gearbox wall so far that it interfered with the movement of the selector plate. Also the shimming was poorly done. The shank of one of the gears was sticking out far enough to warp that much abused selector plate. The assembler must have jammed it on, and said good enough. Even a cursory inspection would have shown that the selector plate wouldn’t work, and in fact would be damaged by the gear shank and screw. Unfortunately Wells reputation for poor quality control is not unwarranted. Needless to say, the selector plate will have to be replaced ASAP.
When I opened the gearbox, the first thing I noticed was an abundance of translucent brownish grease. Unfortunately most of the grease was on the gearbox walls and very little was on the gears. I then removed the spring and compared it to a few springs that I have in my toolbox. It seemed to be about the strength of a stock BE Aug spring. Next I pulled the piston and took a look at the O-Ring. The O-ring looked like rats had nibbled it! It was rough and cracked completely around its circumference. I put it back in the cylinder and checked the compression, finding that (no surprise) there was no compression. It’s a wonder that it could push a bb far enough to clear the muzzle.
One other problem is that there is no way to disconnect the gearbox wires from the front assembly. There needs to be a connection between the gearbox and the battery so that you can work on the gearbox without the whole muzzle of the gun dangling by the wires. What the heck was Well Thinking? An extra socket couldn’t cost that much!
To address these problems I cleaned out the old grease, replaced the O-Ring, installed steel bearings, re-shimmed the gears, replaced the stock spring with a M100 (1.Jl) spring, and swapped the air nozzle with a new one. (No real reason for the last, except that I had a new one handy, and by this time I was willing to think the worst about any plastic or rubber that had had any long contact with that odd colored grease.) Adding a connection between the battery and gearbox will have to wait a few days.
5. Performance
Before the upgrade, performance was about like the BE Styr Aug. Which is understandable based on the spring strength. Without a chrono I can’t say for sure, but based on comparison of Soda can dents, Id say it shot about 200 fps at best. As far as accuracy goes, I could probably hit a man-sized target at 60 feet, most of the time.
Hop-Up is very strong at its highest settings. .2 gram Bb’s start climbing at about 50 feet and as far as I can tell, they just go straight into orbit. At more appropriate settings the hop up is a bit inconsistent. Most shots go more or less where you aim, but every few shots you get a flyer. I will be replacing the hop up rubber as soon as I can get one. It’s okay, not great, but good enough for now.
Rate of fire was quite impressive. Faster than the real thing, by a fair amount. It spits out BBs like a water hose, which made me thankful for the high cap mag, and thankful that the mag seemed to work fairly well. The mag holds 250 BBs and functions about like any other high cap mag I have used. It misfires a bit, but only when the spring isn’t well wound. And of course it doesn’t shoot the last twenty or so BBs.
After the upgrade, I’m getting circa 300 fps, a good flat trajectory out to 60 feet, and as near as I can tell, NO REDUCTION in Rate of fire! This motor is strong. I feel pretty confident that it will pull an M120 spring without to much problem. I can’t say weather the wiring will stand up to it though. The new nozzle and O-Ring solved most of the compression inconsistency, with a marked increase in accuracy. Still need to change the Hop-up rubber though.
6. Overall
The Well R-6 is basically a springer body with an AEG gearbox fitted to it. Visually, it looks like a good plastic model of an M4 rifle. Unfortunately, performance out of the box is not up to a minimum needed to compete in an Aeg arena.
That being said, I believe that despite all the problems THERE IS NOTHING WRONG THAT CAN’T BE FIXED. A bit of good flat black paint will take care of the plastic-y look, and time and about $40 of aftermarket parts will take care of the performance. This gun is a Jalopy. It is best suited for those people who like to tinker with their guns, and boy does the Well R-6 give you ample opportunity to tinker! With a little work, I think you can do great things with this unit. It’s all about skill and imagination.
So there it is. I hope this answers some of your questions.
Update:
The final version of this AEG sports an M120 spring and an SRC Tightbore barrel. It shoots consistently in the 350+ FPS range with excellent accuracy. With SRC hi-cap magazines, it feeds flawlessly. It has proved to be a very nice all around performer on the playfield.
Harper out.
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burtonboarder
Registered: February 2006
Posts: 1
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Review Date: Tue February 28, 2006
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: None indicated
| Rating: 9
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Pros:
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great starter gun
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Cons:
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a little plasticy for my taste
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Ok.
I have had this gun for about 2 months now and it has served me well. The gun has a very plasticy feeling, but it preforms very nicely. the accuracy is pretty satisfying and so is the ROF. This was my first AEG and it was a great gun to learn how to disassemble the gearbox and gun rather doing it on a TM or CA. Right now I have an SRC M4 Tightbore Barrel, M120, SRC M4 Mag installed in the gun, and I am in the process of buying a new 9.6 battery. For anyone looking to buy their first AEG and who wants something on the cheaper side get this gun. It will not let you down.
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airsofthawaii
BANNED
Registered: November 2006
Location: Kihei Hawaii
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Review Date: Wed November 29, 2006
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: $120.00
| Rating: 8
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Pros:
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Shoots super fast!
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Cons:
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Almost all plastic.
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My friend owns this gun, and he used to school us when we had war!This gun shoots super fast and hard with .12g bbs. Most of the gun is plastic, and it is very light. I would recomend this as a starter gun because it is very durable! One of the the down falls of this M4 is the fact that it shoots under 190 FPS.
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gattenby_jack
Registered: April 2007
Location: Southern California
Posts: 121
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Review Date: Wed April 11, 2007
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: $100.00
| Rating: 9
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Pros:
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Excellent value for what you pay for, awesome firepower
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Plastic, stock battery charger sucked
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This was my first AEG and it is absolutely fantastic! I've had the rifle for almost a year now and it is still shooting hard! Out of the box mine was between 300 and 330 fps. I've gotten a 9.6v battery in there and it just makes those bb's fly out. I compared this gun with my friend's upgraded TM AK-74 and it was almost just as good in terms of r.o.f. and fps.
If you are getting an AEG for the first time, I highly recommend this as your first one!
gattenby_jack
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tacticalkillerface
Registered: May 2006
Posts: 52
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Review Date: Fri June 22, 2007
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: $99.95
| Rating: 7
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Pros:
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Cheap, lightweight, High Rof, good mag
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Bad paintjob, inaccurate, almost all plastic externals, wobbly stock
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When I first got this gun in the mail I opened it up and was in shock.(It was my first AEG.) I let the battery charge while I played around with it. Later I went to my friend's house with it and he was like damn thats nice! We ran around outside with it and shot at stuff. When his back was turned at 60 ft i couldn't resist shooting him. It gave him some nice little welts even though he was wearing a hoodie. A week or two later I was in a little 2v2 battle in the snow. My oppenents/teammates were armed with a UTG MP5 and two Boyi M4s. I did about average, although I was usually overpowered by My friend's MP5. Maybe it was because it had some upgrades, I dunno. Overall It's an OK weapon in the field.
-Peace
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GaryOwen7THCAV
Registered: January 2008
Posts: 1
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Review Date: Sat January 26, 2008
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Would you recommend the product? Yes |
Price you paid?: $95.00
| Rating: 8
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Its a solid gun that lasted 2 years of constant use
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the bodys platic
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This gun was my first AEG in a long list of them for me. It served me EXTREMELY well. The gear box is VERY solid, no breaks or anything. there really isnt any cons other then it has a platic body, but when you get into battle that gun will put up a damn good fight. it shoots around, my guess would be 330? 320? around there it seemed like when i got mine. it has a nice POP noise when fired. this gun can be very easily taken apart and no problems putting back together. i would TOTALLY recommend this gun to someone who has maybe just started or has had spring or gas or CO2 all his/her life and want to get into AEG's. if your an experenced player (like me) your going to want a high quality gun like Classic Army, or G&G, or ICS Airsoft Elite, Ect. but i recommend this gun and give it two thumbs up!
When you fire it, people will be putting their heads down.
p.s when you buy this gun, if you do, buy spare METAL! mags. the mag it comes with sucks.
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ownage2214
2 Strikes
Registered: February 2008
Posts: 222
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Review Date: Mon February 18, 2008
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Would you recommend the product? No |
Price you paid?: $79.99
| Rating: 6
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Pros:
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Relatively cheap, good feel
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Cons:
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Plastic body, easily breakable, gearbox is not up to par, magazine misfeeds frequently
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This was my first AEG, and I was ecstatic when it arrived (February 2007). Came with a 8.4V 1,100 mAH battery and 300 mAH tricke charger. Everything was plastic/ABS equivalent besides the trigger, inner barrel, gearbox, cylinder, and motor plate. The stock had a slight wobble but it didn't bother me too much.
The time came to fire, and I was pretty happy with the ROF (13-15 RPS) and FPS (around 320-330 with poor man's chrono). The magazine it comes with is absolutely horrible, as a full wind will give you tons of misfeeds. I think the magwell is messed up on the gun.
After a month or two of ok performance with the gun, the misfeeds increased, and the gun began to constantly jam. Three months in, I accidentally dropped the gun onto carpet from about 4-5 feet, and the entire stock broke off.
A couple months ago, the gun jammed for good, and it took the better part of a day to figure out the problem. I disassembled the gearbox (incidentally stripping the screws on the motor plate), and found the problem. The base of the spring guide had entirely cracked off from the rest of the polycarb spring guide, jamming the piston all the way into the back of the gearbox.
The body of the gun was so damaged by then (random plastic parts falling off left and right), I decided to buy a new gun and save the gearbox parts as extra parts.
The gun is good for first time buyers, but do be careful of the ABS breaking from accidental spills and falls.
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